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  • 18 Jul 2016
Blog, General

Abraham’s Thoughtful Faith

Often people characterise faith as the opposite of thinking. It’s a blind leap in the dark. Friedrich Nietzsche, the nineteenth century atheist philosopher said, “Faith is not wanting to know what is true”. A little more modern example is Richard Dawkins:

“Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.”

Tim Minchin, the Australian comedian agrees:

“Science adjusts its views based on what’s observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.”

This is a common opinion now, but it is not the view of the Bible, and Abraham is a great example of thoughtful faith. In Genesis 15 we read:

‘He took him outside and said, “Look up at the sky and count the stars—if indeed you can count them.” Then he said to him, “So shall your offspring be.” Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness.’ (Genesis 15:5-6)

What was it that caused Abraham (his name was changed from Abram in Genesis 17) to trust God? Paul tells us in Romans 4:

“Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised.” (Romans 4:20-21)

Abraham was fully persuaded that God had the power to grant him as many descendants as the stars. He didn’t just take a leap in the dark, or leave all reason behind, he reasoned his way to his faith. Abraham did a similar thing when God called him to sacrifice Isaac:

“Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead” (Heb 11:19)

Abraham worked from what he knew about God and then reasoned his way to trusting him. That’s what faith is, it’s trust. It’s not a leap in the dark. Trust is given to the one who is trustworthy. Abraham reasoned that God had the power to do what he promised. His faith was based on evidence. Christians also believe based on evidence. The key claim of Christianity is an historical one: Jesus of Nazareth physically rose from the dead. The eye witness testimonies of the risen Jesus lie at the heart of the New Testament’s evidence for Christian faith. Christians believe because they investigate the evidence and find it convincing. It’s logical. It’s reasonable. It’s based on historical observations. It’s based on evidence. Christian faith is no cop-out. In fact one might suggest that deliberately ignoring the evidence for Jesus’ resurrection is to ‘evade the need to think and evaluate evidence’.

  • 14 Jun 2016
Blog, General

A Journey with Cancer

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Since January one of our pastors, Dan Godde, has been diagnosed with Leukemia and has been receiving treatment. This has meant long stays in Melbourne away from family and church. Rob, our other pastor, has happily stepped up into Dan’s role and is doing a great job. Dan’s journey with cancer looks likely to be a long one. Doctor’s project that if his treatment is successful, he will probably not return to work until next year. This news has brought grief to Dan’s family, our church family and his friends. But in the midst we are comforted, because our God is a good God and he is in control of this world, even when things look bleak. Please join us in praying for Dan and his family. Also, please pray for the leaders of Flooding Creek. Many of our church members have stood up and taken on more leadership this year, and we have already seen how in the midst of this trial God is blessing us.

If you would like to follow Dan’s progress, than you might like to read his blog here.

  • 04 Jan 2016
Blog, General, Sermon Series

World’s Biggest Problem Survey Results

The survey results are in. 162 people responded to the survey and the top 10 results are:

  1. Terrorism 15%
  2. Lack of respect 12%
  3. War 12%
  4. Poverty 11%
  5. Greed 8%
  6. Religion 7%
  7. Pollution 4%
  8. Drugs 4%
  9. Lack of belief in God 4%
  10. Humanity 3%

Other answers included politicians, animal cruelty and overpopulation.

Later in the year we’ll be seeing how the Bible addresses the biggest issues in the world.

3 – War and Poverty
2 – Lack of Respect
1 – Terrorism

Stand by for the dates…

  • 30 Dec 2015
Blog, General

Who cares about the Cross?

Every religion has its own symbol. The Lotus flower was first used by the Egyptians and the ancient Chinese and Indians but is now mostly associated with Buddhism.  Its wheel shape depicts the circle of birth and death, and beauty and harmony emerging out of muddy water.  Ancient Judaism was scared stiff to have a symbol and avoided having one for fear of breaking the second commandment, but these days the modern Jewish nation has the Star of David.  Its hexagon shape represents God’s promise to David that his kingdom would last forever and that the Messiah would come from his line.  Islam has got the Cresent, depicting the moon, and Christianity has the cross.  The cross is now the universal symbol of Christianity.

But why the cross?  Why focus on the cross.  Jesus rose from the dead and went to heaven.  If you’re a Christian why wouldn’t you have an empty tomb as a symbol?  Or Jesus ascending to heaven?  Or what about the miracles?  Maybe there should have been more emphasis on Jesus’s miraculous powers.  Maybe a wave seeing that he commanded and walked on a few.  Or because he was God who came down as man we should have focused on him as the carpenter.  Maybe a hammer or chisel could have been the symbol. But why the cross? Why focus on his death and crucifixion?

Let’s think about it: why would you choose to remember as your symbol the time your God went through the most humiliating, embarrassing time of his short life?  Now when it comes to the Roman Empire, these guys were absolute guns at creating methods of execution.  They built a stadium for it and it still stands there today (barely).  Crucifixion which was a death only reserved for the dodgiest of people, was the cruelest method ever invented of execution for it delayed the death for maximum torture.  First stripping you naked, you could be up there for days before you died, having bird’s pecking your eyes out and pecking at your flesh.  Gross.  But that’s the reality.  They gave you a little bit of timber for you to hold your weight a bit so the nails wouldn’t tear through your flesh and you’d fall off and have to be re-nailed.  Such is the reality of Crucifixion.  But this is what Jesus Christ the Messiah and Son of God went through.  Why would his followers want to remember that and have that as the universal symbol?

Why choose this horrific event as thing we symbolize Christianity for?  Because the centrality of the cross originated in the mind of Jesus himself. He was a guy who from a young age knew his own fate.  From the time he was a youngster sitting in his “father’s house” hanging out with the teachers in the temple, he knew he had a mission.  His father had sent him into the world for a purpose.  He had one mission only he could do; this purpose only he could go through.  But only he and God knew about it.  Even his followers had no idea what his mission was.  Jesus tells Peter plain as day what is going to happen to him and Jesus turns around and says get away from me Satan.  In the upper room over the last supper the followers had no clue what was about to happen to him even after it was confirmed to them.  I am going to die tonight fellas. Huh?  Meanwhile, Andrew to Thomas: “Thomas can you please pass the salt.”  They had no idea.

So why did he have to die?  Why was his mission to die?  I might give four solid reasons.

  1. He died for us.

He did it for our sake and not his own and believed that by dying, he would secure the good which could not be secured in any other way.  He was the Good Shepherd who was going to lay down his life for his sheep for their benefit.  In the upper room he showed this as well by the Lord ’s Supper picture “this is my body given for you’.

  1. He died for us to bring us to God. (1 Peter 3:18)

Our reconciliation with God.  We stuffed up and are separated from God.  It was only through his sacrifice in that we can come to the Father.  We are saved through his death.

  1. He died for our Sins

Our sins are the roadblock that stopped us from having the gift he wanted to give us so they had to be removed so we could receive it.  So in Jesus’ death he took away our sins.  He died so that his sacrifice would be a once off payment for the humanity of the world, wiping away all their wrongs.

  1. Christ died our death

The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). The reality is we deserve death.  We are born with a sin inside that needs to be dealt with.  I know that sucks, but that’s the fact.  We are not all good people who do a few bad things.  We are wretched people who need saving.  When we say, I can do life my own way, I will do what I want to do, we have offended God in the most shocking way by saying “thanks for creating me, now get nicked”.  We are sinners and we deserve death and death is the final judgement for our rebellion towards God.  It is what we deserve.  But Jesus became our sin offering and died our death, the death we deserve so that we can live with him eternally.

So who cares about the cross?  All humanity should.  To have the Son of God come down as man, so that man can be sons of God is the greatest act of love.  To have a God who would send his Son to die for your benefit, to bring you into relationship with him for eternity, to pay for the sins that you committed, and die the death you deserve, a God who would die a death in the most cruel, torturous way for you.  Now there is a God who must love you and treasure you as his most precious possession.  A God who must really want to know you and be in relationship with.

Who cares about the cross?

by Rob Nicholls (Rob is one of the pastors at Flooding Creek)

  • 17 Dec 2015
Blog, General

Mythbusters Christmas Eve Special

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Join us this Christmas Eve at 6pm at Guthridge Primary School Hall for a super-short, super-fun, all-ages Mythbusters Christmas Eve service. We’ll sing carols, sort fact from fiction and have lots of fun. Feel free to stay for a free feed and then drive around looking at the Christmas lights in town. Everyone is welcome.

Key details:
time: 6pm
date: Thursday, 24th December
location: Guthridge Primary School Hall

  • 02 Dec 2015

The World’s Biggest Problem

What do you think is the world’s biggest problem? We’d love to know your thoughts. Below is a link to an online survey where you can have your say. Already people all over Sale have filled in the survey through friends, on the street or online. In January the results of the survey will be announced and three talks will address the top three responses on 10, 17 and 24 January. So click below to have a go, and come back in January to see what people think is the world’s biggest problem.

Survey link

  • 12 Oct 2015
Blog, General


life post


Is there more to life?

Jesus Christ says there is. We’d love you to join us at Life to explore what he says about this question and many more, such as:

  • Who is this man called Jesus? Isn’t he simply an urban myth?
  • Is there any real evidence? What about his resurrection from the dead?
  • Does my life have purpose?
  • How can you trust the Bible? Hasn’t it been changed over time?
  • Why should I care about all this stuff?

You will have plenty of opportunity to ask questions. Regardless of how difficult or controversial, we won’t be offended.

Is Life for you?

Life is for anyone interested in exploring the big questions of life. Everyone is welcome, no matter age or background. The night includes good food, coffee, a short talk, and opportunity for discussion and questions – all in a relaxed atmosphere.

Life series details

Our very popular Life series begins again on 16th October and includes 6 Friday nights for coffee and dessert.

location:   Tall Poppy Cafe, 344 Raymond St Sale (Opposite Harvey Norman)
cost:          $2 (includes coffee and dessert)
time:         7:30pm – 9pm Friday nights starting 16th April

  • 16 Jul 2015
Blog, General, Uncategorized

The Sacred Cows of Domestic Violence

I was chatting to an Amnesty International activist the other day. He informed me of the growing problem of domestic violence and the importance of Australians standing up and letting their government know that they take domestic violence very seriously. He said that Amnesty was involved in lobbying the government and also ensuring that kids in schools were made aware of the dangers and appropriate attitudes to domestic violence. I said I couldn’t agree more, and asked him if the risks involved in de facto relationships and pornography were part of the education package. He looked at me blankly and became a little agitated. As far as he was concerned there were no connections between domestic violence and de facto relationships or pornography.

Concern about domestic violence is escalating recently, with good reason. One third of all women in Australia have experienced domestic violence. This is a sad and sickening figure and it’s absolutely right to turn our attention to this issue. Many have pointed the finger at traditional attitudes to gender roles as a cause. But attitudes and opportunities for women have changed remarkably over the last few decades, and yet violence seems to be increasing rather than decreasing. With our rightly renewed interest in stamping out domestic violence, why are de facto relationships and pornography being ignored in the public debate?

Sacred Cow 1: De facto relationships

One of the big changes in our society that was meant to reduce domestic violence was the introduction of no-fault-divorce in 1975. Women trapped in abusive marriages were now able to escape. Over time, marriage became less popular and a new, liberating  alternative to marriage began to emerge and was eventually recognised: the de facto relationship. But have de facto relationships been good for women? Not if you look at the domestic violence stats. According to different studies, women are three to four times more likely to suffer domestic violence in a de facto relationship than they are in a marriage. Yet there is little or no coverage of these statistics in the media. It seems counter-intuitive, but the numbers speak for themselves: women are safer in marriages than they are in de facto relationships. Ironically divorce has not made women any happier either.

Sacred Cow 2: Pornography

Another big change in our society came with the internet age: easy access to pornography. Before the internet you had to go down to the news agency and physically stand before another person in order to buy a pornographic magazine. Now you can secretly watch it on your smart phone without a soul ever knowing. But why does it matter what someone does in the privacy of their own home? It doesn’t affect anyone else, right? Wrong. Pornography is having devastating effects on our society. One of those effects is an increase in abuse to women by men. Studies show that exposure even to non-violent pornography increase people’s acceptance of violence towards women. And it’s not just attitudes, men (and also boys) act out on those new attitudes. Rape rates increase by six times with exposure to violent porn. Even soft-core porn correlates with increased rates of child sexual abuse and rape. Yet it doesn’t get a mention in the new campaigns about domestic violence! Why on earth not?

No doubt about it. Men are to blame for domestic violence against women. But if we’re going to get serious about reducing domestic violence then let’s speak the hard truth. Two sacred cows need to be exposed for what they are: havens of domestic violence.

  1. De facto relationships are too dangerous for our women. Ladies, insist on getting married for your own safety and protection. Men, don’t slide into a commitment-free sexual relationship, man up and marry the woman. Commit to her life-long well-being.
  2. Pornography is not a harmless indulgence. It trains your brain for sexual violence. Switch it off before it ruins your life and the lives of others.
  • 22 Jun 2015
Blog, General

Music Time

A class that teaches basic music concepts and skills in a Christian environment
For kids 0-5 yrs and their carers
Thursdays, 9:30-10:30am during school terms, starting 16th July.
10:30-11:30am – morning tea and an informal
opportunity to talk about God in your family’s life
(child-minding provided during discussion time)
$5 per family, includes morning tea
at Mary Fields Hall, Pettit Dr, Sale

To register, or for more information, email info@floodingcreek.com.

Places are strictly limited, so register now!

  • 03 Jun 2015
Blog, General

Time for a change!

We’re changing our service time from 3pm in the afternoon to 10am in the morning as of this Sunday. Why? Because we live in a dairy farming area and it’s hard for dairy farmers to come to church when it’s on at the exact same time as they milk. Winter is an opportune time to change as well, since our afternoon services finished in the dark and cold. Now we finish in the warm winter sun, with plenty of time to chat and opportunities to invite people over for lunch. So why not come along and check out or new timeslot?

Want to know more? Contact us

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